it's about M-E! MY ENJOYMENT!!

[bossymarmalade]

I am going to make an entirely unrelated post in a bit, but right at this second I am busy playing a game of "I'm not going to alter artistic visions for the vid just so there's some racial evenness" or: why I'm glad I'd already defriended mlyn. Mother of GOD.

Comments

[inkstone]

Holy crap!

[bossymarmalade]

INDEED!

[gloss]

Those poor vidders, so hogtied to dominant visions, unable to imagine alternatives....WAIT A MINUTE.

That comment is *noxious*.

[bossymarmalade]

It's not *her* fault that all the interesting characters are white! Be fair, now!

[skywardprodigal]

Ugh.

Thank programmers for ban-set.

[bossymarmalade]

HEAR, HEAR.

[skywardprodigal]

:)

I liked one line I read there especially. I think it sums up what's up with white racists in fandoms: "Representation of characters of colour in fandom is not proportional to the representation of characters of colour on tv. It just isn't. "

I think that was from thingswithwings here.

[slide]

i don't think she would approve of your tone, maggie. you're making her feel defensive and as if she's in a hostile, judgy unaccepting environment. tsk tsk.

[bossymarmalade]

God, I know. I mean, if I were only nicer about it! Then at least she wouldn't feel so *hurt* when she tells me race isn't as important as *art*.

[thedrummertobeat]

sigh.

[bossymarmalade]

I see your sigh and raise you an annoyed grunt!!

[eisen]

Oh jesus balls why.

Fandom: where being a privileged asshat is just a stylistic choice!

[bossymarmalade]

Being a jackhole makes your artistic vision THAT MUCH truer!!

[loveflyfree]

oh for the love of. that's just. grrrrrargh.

awesome. i've gone incoherent with rage.

[bossymarmalade]

ahahahaha! I find making clawing motions in the air really helps.

[loveflyfree]

also I'm almost positive that I used to know this girl IRL, and if that's the case, her arguments have not changed one bit in the last 10 years. so you know. fantastic.

[duraflame]

I especially like the comment elsewhere about 'Fandom 2.0'. I'm picturing Clint Eastwood with a gun crochetying it up telling people to get off his lawn.

UGH.

[bossymarmalade]

*snort* That disgusting Fandom 2.0, where we can no longer enjoy the assumption of lily-white fandom in peace! MORE WHITE BOYS BUTTFUCKING, PLZ

[bravecows]

Why can't you leave people alone to achieve their artistic visions of exquisite whiteness? >:( Don't you know stories are just better when everyone in them is white?

[la_vie_noire]

Including non-white people = ruining art. The truth of life.

[willow]

Unless it's a unique non-white artform, in which case it's selfish to exclude white people and start talking about appropriation.

[bossymarmalade]

It's so SHORTSIGHTED of me. I should have realized that the true peak of art is white, and that's NOBODY'S FAULT.

[jonquil]

I am SO DAMNED SICK of people's artistic vision.

You are not Vincent fucking van Gogh. If you are, I will happily help you with that extraneous ear.

[bossymarmalade]

This comment = SWEET PANACEA TO MY FEELINGS OF RAGE.

[shewhohashope]

Yeah, that made my head explode, but I felt like I wasn't involved in vidding enough to really say anything. And I'm trying to keep my blood pressure down.

[bossymarmalade]

Your blood pressure is far more important than the pure pale sanctity of her Dean/Sam vid, I tell you whut.

[bossymarmalade]

also, after using that Frank icon in response to your Zoe one, I now want Zoe Alleyne/Frank Pembleton fic. omg yummmmmmmmmmmmm.

[robanybody]

Oh, love the tone argument she uses in all her comments. Because we haven't seen that one trotted out in every. single. race discussion EVER.

Also, her comprehension fail is epic.

[la_vie_noire]

Aw. Poor oppressed white woman. Those mean POC ruing her squee with their Oppreshuns.

[brownbetty]

It's this kind of thing that makes me realize at least my corner of fandom has been cluebatted into not saying that shit when called on their fic.

[delux-vivens.livejournal.com]

I just had an awful lot of white wine with my lunch so I am pleasantly unable to muster deep upset about those comments.

Well, that and i just *do not care* about this kind of shit any more.

[violetisblue]

It was just so much better before that evil Fandom 2.0 where people insist on talking about issues and all that stupid non-sparkly-pony stuff. Respect their pain, Maggie.

[cereta]

I can't even.

[maschalismos]

Sweet god. On a biscuit.

[embitca.livejournal.com]

I've been reading that whole thread. I'm completely flummoxed by the inability to see their (I think there's at least two idiots in this thread, yes) economic privilege even a little bit. That old timey Windoze 98 computer that broke down all the time and could hardly do any vidding probably cost close to $2K in 1999. And the whole "but anyone can vid today"... I just. I just shake my head.

[willow]

Well that was an interesting 10 minute diversion for me to collect notes for my blocking add on for 'Clueless Privilege White Women Assholes'.

[skywardprodigal]

Share please.

[willow]

ProCon at Mozilla Add Ons? Or the list? Which was in a Mordor comment.

[skywardprodigal]

By ProCon do you mean this?

[willow]

Yup, though I don't use FF3, so I'm not sure what the newest update is like. But I've found it very comforting to know folk are blocked off my internet experience. I don't have to worry about forgetting a name and clicking a link and getting a face full of stupid.

I've also been trying it to block some annoying pop-unders.

[isilya]

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh. I wonder what her day to day life is, that she can regard diversity as an optional extra.

[wembley]

Remember: if you see racism, you're just supposed to suck it up. But if people are talking about racism? TOTALLY OFFENSIVE.

[susanreads]

Now I want an icon that says "Meta is my fandom".

*ponders what I could use for a background*

mental partisan war round 1,001

[marej]

yup. still no cure for dumbass. *headdesk*1,000,001*

[phosfate]

It's simple! She's offended because, um...yeah, I got nuthin'.

[frausorge]

Well, fuck.