just like the swiss family robinson, only with more cursing

[bossymarmalade]

Not that it matters to anybody, but I REALLY fucking hate the word "woobie" and all associated connotations of that word. Just, why? Why take a character with edges and file them down until they're a smooth and featureless uninteresting blob with a soft runny centre? WHY?!?! Because everybody's entitled to enjoy fandom in their own way, yeah yeah, I know, blase blase blase. But it still bugs me.

And, apologies for being the voice of dissent: chootoy and I watched the Lost premiere last night and were pretty much unimpressed. Darlings, don't read my reasons why I didn't love it if you know it's gonna upset you,

- chootoy spent the entire episode referring to Matthew Fox's character as "God--er, I mean, Jack." Because, *really*. Not only is he super!doctor, but he also took a couple of flying lessons and so knows what a "tranceiver" or whatever is on an airplane and where to find it? And why did he use that tiny bottle of vodka to make that annoying Kate sterilize her hands? He could've cleaned his wound with salt water and kept the alcohol to sterilize his hands hmmm, oh, I dunno -- maybe when the pregnant girl GIVES BIRTH.

- possibly to a stillborn baby, because my *lord* she was huge with child. Do they allow women to fly when they're that close to term? How did she even survive the crash laden down with that burden? And was that black lady SMOKING A JOINT?!?!

- Little lifeguard guy who just wanted to help with his CPR skillz and penz = adorable. Augustus Hill the proud papa and his solemn child = adorable. Sayid's and Charlie's tru luv 4 EVA = adorable. Korean actors who seem to be playing Japanese people with Ancient Oriental Secret, ah so = WTF. I really hope that particular storyline doesn't go the way of "she's my arranged marriage!" or "i was forced to marry to maintain my family's honour!" or some bullshit like that.

- plane crash = TERRIFYING. Why the hell was that engine still running? Dear God! And speaking of which, WHY DIDN'T KATE GET SUCKED INTO IT? And also that dumb blonde girlfriend of the lifeguard guy! I hope the blonde chick runs out of nailpolish and then walks into the ocean and drowns herself. As for Kate, it's like she instantly started ovulating the moment she saw Jack and hey, did anybody else find that whole "count to five" stuff insipid and irritating?

- the Doomed Pilot of Exposition Convenience, and Shifty Guy who is gonna Stir Shit Up. 'Nuff said.

- that guy with the orange in his mouth. My heart fucking FROZE when his lips peeled back over that neon fucking orange, yo; that was the moment where chootoy and I fervently agreed on a definite Twin Peaks feel to parts of the show. And lord, I hope the Big Bad ain't a dinosaur. Because that would be just lame. More creepiness like the orange slice, more character interaction, less trying to convince the audience that Kate is a babe. Also, less of the hero!Jack, because I kind of like him but it'll be hard to overlook the Mary-Sueness of him.

So basically, it was the pilot and you never can tell from the pilot, so I guess I'm gonna have to watch a few more episodes before coming to a conclusion on it. Apart from that, Gilmore girls was great and CSI:NY was disturbing but ultimately pointless. Tonight, though, is "a day in the life" of the OC, and momma you KNOW I'm looking forward to that business.

Also, I love the new update page. It shows me what my chosen mood looks like! That's AWESOME.

Comments

[eisakay.livejournal.com]

Not that it matters to anybody, but I REALLY fucking hate the word "woobie" and all associated connotations of that word.

I cringed every time I read it, even in that sentence. God I hate that word so much. Especially when to me that word has little kid written all over it, and why the hell would I want to associate little kid with something that I find attractive? Which is how I see many people use it.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

It's just so...cutesy. And especially since people seem to use it to describe characters like Lex and Snape and the like. ugh, ugh, ugh!

[coreopsis.livejournal.com]

hey, did anybody else find that whole "count to five" stuff insipid and irritating?
Yes. There was a strong desire to slap her. And Jack, man, he is totally a Mary Sue. I almost turned it off in the first five minutes, but I was too curious and then I got sucked in by the minor characters.

And on the woobie tip. See icon for my opinion. :-)

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

ahahahaahh! Lord, the whole woobie!Snape thing is just...confounding. Sometimes I really don't get the whole urge to cutesify mean characters, man.

There was a strong desire to slap her

Excellent. The preview for next week's episode looked like it might actually concentrate on things other than Kate's yearning to be fertilized by Jack's manly, overly-competent seed, so I'll probably tune in. *g*

[lemniskate.livejournal.com]

huh. I got no creepiness from the orangeslice. I almost -- it's something my dad used to do, and to me it was just the guy almost sort of trying to make her smile, and of course This Is A Serious Situation, What is There to Smile About! so she doesn't... I dunno. Plus he's the guy from those creepy stepfather movies which I'll always identify him with. which has nothing to do with the orange slices, but anyways.

preggo woman? yet another example of preggo without an ounce of fat on her body, except for the basketball she swallowed. And the flying when you're that far along varies, if you have a doctor's note, if the airline allows it. the concern is that the pressure changes will initiate labor, and hey, looks like they were rightabout that.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

to me it was just the guy almost sort of trying to make her smile

See, logically I realized that's what he was trying to do, but the almost slow-motion of it and the *shocking* brightness of the orange really startled me. I did like it, though; it was a very striking image, fo' sho.

if you have a doctor's note, if the airline allows it

Heh! I see. Well, that makes more sense then; I have zero knowledge about what you are and aren't allowed to do while pregnant. *g* Thank you, sweetie!

[trishalynn.livejournal.com]

I had a biology teacher who looked like that when she got pregnant. No lie. She gained just a wee bit o' plump, but it was very, very wee.

[suyari.livejournal.com]

I managed to see the first two episodes, via burned DVDs from across the pond. And there's a 'twist' to the show that just promises to be lame. Otherwise, I kinda like it. Although, I don't know if I'll be able to watch it with commercials. Obviously I skipped the pilot.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

there's a 'twist' to the show that just promises to be lame

ahahahaahah! Oh, that review *rules*. I'm definitely gonna hang in and watch it for a while, see what happens; generally, I enjoy shows with ensemble casts. If you're annoyed by one character, there's always a few others coming up in a scene or two. *g*

[geneli4.livejournal.com]

Not that it matters to anybody, but I REALLY fucking hate the word "woobie" and all associated connotations of that word.
huh. more proof i live in a vacuum: i don't think i've ever even heard it before. and can we go back to that, please, because i think i hate it already.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

ahahahaah! There's just something about the word itself that's kind of cloying and awful, isn't there? I admit I probably don't know the *full* and *rounded* scope of the word, but just the sound of it makes me feel kind of ill. So there you go. *g*

[callsigns.livejournal.com]

He could've cleaned his wound with salt water

That's what *I* kept yelling! There's this vast ocean of antiseptic glory all around them! Disinfect at will!

I really want the BB to be giant bats. Could it be giant bats, do you think?

[coreopsis.livejournal.com]

That'd be awesome. I totally vote for giant bats. Or, alternatively, that really freaking big furry spider from Gilligan's Island. That would also rock if they embraced the camp to that degree. In fact, I'm counting down the mintues until the first Gilligan's Island joke. I kept waiting for it last night.

[evilprettykitty.livejournal.com]

I had issues with it being the WORST FAKE BELLY EVER.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

ahahhahah! It really was. I mean, I know that there are thin girls whose pregnancies look like they're stuck on, but really. That was just going too far.

[rachel-wilder.livejournal.com]

So basically, it was the pilot and you never can tell from the pilot, so I guess I'm gonna have to watch a few more episodes before coming to a conclusion on it. Apart from that, Gilmore girls was great and CSI:NY was disturbing but ultimately pointless. Tonight, though, is "a day in the life" of the OC, and momma you KNOW I'm looking forward to that business.

I missed CSI last night, but found someone to give me a tape. Well, you know I loved Lost cause, well...I got NO perspective!!! But I tend to think that those god-like qualities are part of the character we don't know yet. Almost all of those people on the island are strangers to one another and we don't know what they're hiding from one another.

Also, I love the new update page. It shows me what my chosen mood looks like! That's AWESOME.

Me too! I can't figure out why everyone's ragging on it.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

I tend to think that those god-like qualities are part of the character we don't know yet. Almost all of those people on the island are strangers to one another and we don't know what they're hiding from one another.

Good point. Like Charlie's heavily hinted-at drug problem. See, I have all these theories already about what's going to happen in each character's storyline, so now I have to keep watching to see if the writers have something TOTALLY DIFFERENT in mind. If they do, that would be awesome, because I'm really not that hard to please and so if *I* can predict a show, that means it's pretty damn bad. *g*

[lisan.livejournal.com]

How do you feel about "wibble"?
I'm just trying to get your attention, obviously. ;P

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

Wibble is sweet! See, that's an *action* so it's okay. Plus it doesn't bring that special...neutering quality that "woobie" does. Heh!

[between-names.livejournal.com]

But! But!! It's destiny!

Actually, it grates on me when it's w00bies, for some reason, but woobies, in relation to Harry/Neville? That I'm okay with.

In all other instances, a woobie is only the thing the middle child on Mr. Mom carried. Period.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

Actually, it grates on me when it's w00bies

Oh my God, there's DIFFERENT WAYS to spell it? This is all starting to make me dizzy. I hear it's also slang for a dog's chewtoy.

*blinks*

[katemonkey.livejournal.com]

Oh good Christ, how much do I hate "woobie".

Hate!

Also -- while the ocean is salt water, it's also filled with like a billion jillion million little microscopic critters, so it's not exactly the best thing to clean wounds with. And birthing babies doesn't have to be too sterile, as long as he wasn't like, poking around in a gangrenous leg right before popping out the kid.

Um. Dude, that was an entire paragraph expended on something I haven't even seen. I need to get out more. That, and I am jeaaaalous of your new OC. But, then again, Jesus, I haven't even finished the first season, so I don't know why I'm whining.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

Hee! I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies, so I will gladly concede there. But then, I have a hoarding mentality so I was watching through the whole show going, "loot the bodies! take their clothes! strip down the cockpit for anything you can use!" so his wasting the vodka right off the bat really agitated me. *g*

Jesus, I haven't even finished the first season, so I don't know why I'm whining

They're supposedly coming out with the first season on DVD soon! I hope they include the specials on it, because that would be kewl.

[throughadoor.livejournal.com]

am glad i'm not the only one who thinks that there's twin peaks potential for the show! if the monster is not a monster, but, you know, the arm. the owl. BOB. whatever. anyway, if the monster is just a monster or a dinosaur or whatever, i will be muuuuuuch less enthusiastic. also, hopefully they can explore the wackiness of their ensemble and get over the god-complexness.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

hopefully they can explore the wackiness of their ensemble and get over the god-complexness

Yes yes yes! I want to see more of the other characters and less of Kate, because I can already tell she's gonna be the one who's self-righteous and everybody apologizes to her for no reason whenever she throws a fit. ick.

the arm. the owl. BOB. whatever.

If they keep up the feeling they elicited with that damn freakass orangeslice, they'll be well on their way. And I am with you on rooting for the supernatural terror vs. t-rex, because y'know, even Jurassic Park was only good once.

[robanybody.livejournal.com]

The word 'woobie' needs to fucking die already. And I say this as one who uses stupid, cutesy language for fandom stuff.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

I'm not even against cutesy terms on the whole, but it's kind of the driving philosopy behind this one that compounds on the gross mouth-feel of it. And now I sound like a raving lunatic, but I know you love me anyway. *g*

[xphile101.livejournal.com]

My heart fucking FROZE when his lips peeled back over that neon fucking orange

Mine too. That startled me more than anything else on this show. That guy is so freaky, with the cut above and under his eye... he looks almost like an evil clown. Ugh.

And lord, I hope the Big Bad ain't a dinosaur. Because that would be just lame.

Didn't it sound exactly like the T-Rex in Jurassic Park? I bet the dog has a huge part in the mystery of the island.

Overall, I'm meh about this show. Could watch it, probably will... if I remember.

(Gilmore Girls though... eeeeee!)

[babygotbass.livejournal.com]

aaaaaaaaaah, yes. the dog.

i am scared of the dog.

and the big bad thing? my first thought was dinosaur...but i really hope it isn't something that unbelievable.

-- erin

[trishalynn.livejournal.com]

I was also wondering why pregnant blonde chick didn't get sucked into the engine. She totally should have, 'cause the other guy did. And what was that about the wing falling and then something blew up? It was falling on OPEN SAND.

[beatpropx.livejournal.com]

That's where the fuel tanks are located. Ergo, boom!

[babygotbass.livejournal.com]

Somehow I am managing to overlook all of the storyline flubs to enjoy all these hot guys getting dirty and distressed all over my TV. Disaster drama is right up my alley.

-- Erin

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

Hee! Oh, I'm totally gonna watch it again. You never can tell from the pilot where a show's gonna go, and the other characters look totally interesting. Plus, it's something to watch before Gilmore girls, heh!

[cimarosa.livejournal.com]

...Charlie and Sayid's True Love is deep and true and virtuous and beautiful and all encompassing and without compare.

*sigh*

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

Hooray! I'm glad that somebody else saw it apart from me. Unless of course you're mocking me for claiming True Love from three seconds of interaction, in which case WAAAAAAAAAAH! *g*

[cathybites.livejournal.com]

When they first showed the Big Scary Nothingness swishing the trees around, my first thought was, 'King Kong!', which then became, 'King Homer!' Because how funny would it be if they were being terrorized by a 50-foot Homer? But if it's not Homer, then I'm kind of hoping that we never actually see what The Thing is because I'm pretty sure I will only be disappointed by it.

Also, 48 survivors? Way too many. When are they going to start killing people off?

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

But if it's not Homer, then I'm kind of hoping that we never actually see what The Thing is because I'm pretty sure I will only be disappointed by it

Exactly. Also, from now on, I am TOTALLY GOING TO THINK IT'S HOMER. ahahahhahahah! That is fucking *funny*!!

48 survivors? Way too many. When are they going to start killing people off?

I guess if they want the series to last at all, they're gonna need them around. What I wanna know is, when are they gonna start stripping and burying the bodies, for fucksake?!!?

[unlovablehands.livejournal.com]

re: "woobie"

Honestly? I use it in self-mockery. When I realize I'm trying to find reasoning for, say, Guy Gardner being a mondo jerk, or find myself sympathizing with a supervillain just 'cause I kind of a have a crush, I say "woobie" because it's so freaking ridiculous what I'm doing, and I'm entirely aware I'm doing it. *sigh*

[mostlikelyto.livejournal.com]

- What's a woobie?

- I got a kick out of Jack mentioning operating on a girl and ripping her dura mater, because I just took an exam on that! And man, spinal nerves really do look like spaghetti. Really thin, gray spaghetti. Mmmm, spinal nerves with cerebral spinal fluid sauce. Ew, I just grossed myself out.

- Seriously, why can Jack do everything? I want to be Jack when I grow up. Except not crashed on a desert island with a creepy dinosaur thing. But possibly with Dominic Monaghan.

- The Some-Sort-of-Asian people were definitely speaking Korean.

[bossymarmalade.livejournal.com]

- Apparently, a "woobie" is when some seemingly hard-assed character turns out to have a soft, chewy centre. Like, Lex Luthor is really just a whimpering girlchild on the inside who needs soup. Or something like that.

- I was horrified enough when Jack said that spinal nerves looked like angel-hair pasta, but to have you *confirm* it? Eiw eiw EIW!!!

- Jack = GOD.

- I have since read that the Korean couple have a secret that extends beyond "me submissive wife", which makes me exceedingly happy. Thank GOD! Or JACK!