I spoke up. Of course every time I speak up I'm aware I'm making myself a target. It amuses me a lot when I get told I'm being an attention whore and more because I see it as being the squeaky wheel that damn well will demand some grease.
Orcing shocked me.
This thing with Mac_Stone, hurt. It hurt me enough I journaled about it in my personal space. It hurt enough that I asked some folks to check it for me because I felt like maybe I was just projecting or something.
It is a violation and there is nothing ironic in it at all that the list she or he so proudly displays represents everything PoC do on a daily basis in order to not end up dead. It is a an abomination that then when people speak out they are labeled abusers.
ABUSERS specifically horrified and pains me. Seeing therapeutic language used to attempt to validate an abusers pov in the scenario - appalls me.
But I'm going to say this, I've had some... several hours (I saw this near 6am or or I think) to rest with this. There is nothing you can do, no angry you can be, no forthright you can be with someone like this. When people so want to be right, so don't want to confront the possibility of needed growth in their lives, so want to be static and comfortable and unable to move past being safe in order to experience glory and wonder and intelligence and friendship and love and more - there is nothing you can do for them. Nothing.
No therapist in the world can help someone who does not want to help themselves. And being helped and wanting help involves moving out of your safe zone and comfort zone because it's unhealthy. What makes you feel safe often times is what you know, and what you know isn't healthy. If mac_stone cannot handle other people positively expressing their anger - in healthy ways via dialogue then that is his or her problem. And only their problem.
I've been in therapy too and I know that anger is just an emotion. It's about what you do with it. It's about how you use it.
And on top of that, if the whole lot of them are so inexperienced that they cannot handle discussion with multiple layers and more than one front then they are not up to us and our measure. PoC handle multiple layers all the time, it's a survival trait. We handle multiple fronts because it's also a survival trait.
This is, perhaps, one more circumstance that shows us that this particular group - academic white woman, much like what happened with Amanda Marcotte and Brownfemmipower CANNOT HANDLE US. They see our power and immediately associate it with abuse, perhaps because they don't know about power that comes from within instead of being grabbed from someone else. They see us with our voices and they don't know how to have a voice and be angry and speak truth, because they copy their voices from others.
And if anything's been revealed to me/ taught to me in this whole thing, is the amazing strength in this group of PoC, especially PoC women, I'm amazed to be associated with online. You're hurting but you're fighting back with words and analysis and history and your voice. I was hurt and I think I've found my voice again. We don't stay down for long - and that strength is quite possibly something to be feared. But it's safe to say, isn't it, that it won't be hemmed in no matter what new (old) tactic is thrown at us.
no subject
Orcing shocked me.
This thing with Mac_Stone, hurt. It hurt me enough I journaled about it in my personal space. It hurt enough that I asked some folks to check it for me because I felt like maybe I was just projecting or something.
It is a violation and there is nothing ironic in it at all that the list she or he so proudly displays represents everything PoC do on a daily basis in order to not end up dead. It is a an abomination that then when people speak out they are labeled abusers.
ABUSERS specifically horrified and pains me. Seeing therapeutic language used to attempt to validate an abusers pov in the scenario - appalls me.
But I'm going to say this, I've had some... several hours (I saw this near 6am or or I think) to rest with this. There is nothing you can do, no angry you can be, no forthright you can be with someone like this. When people so want to be right, so don't want to confront the possibility of needed growth in their lives, so want to be static and comfortable and unable to move past being safe in order to experience glory and wonder and intelligence and friendship and love and more - there is nothing you can do for them. Nothing.
No therapist in the world can help someone who does not want to help themselves. And being helped and wanting help involves moving out of your safe zone and comfort zone because it's unhealthy. What makes you feel safe often times is what you know, and what you know isn't healthy. If mac_stone cannot handle other people positively expressing their anger - in healthy ways via dialogue then that is his or her problem. And only their problem.
I've been in therapy too and I know that anger is just an emotion. It's about what you do with it. It's about how you use it.
And on top of that, if the whole lot of them are so inexperienced that they cannot handle discussion with multiple layers and more than one front then they are not up to us and our measure. PoC handle multiple layers all the time, it's a survival trait. We handle multiple fronts because it's also a survival trait.
This is, perhaps, one more circumstance that shows us that this particular group - academic white woman, much like what happened with Amanda Marcotte and Brownfemmipower CANNOT HANDLE US. They see our power and immediately associate it with abuse, perhaps because they don't know about power that comes from within instead of being grabbed from someone else. They see us with our voices and they don't know how to have a voice and be angry and speak truth, because they copy their voices from others.
And if anything's been revealed to me/ taught to me in this whole thing, is the amazing strength in this group of PoC, especially PoC women, I'm amazed to be associated with online. You're hurting but you're fighting back with words and analysis and history and your voice. I was hurt and I think I've found my voice again. We don't stay down for long - and that strength is quite possibly something to be feared. But it's safe to say, isn't it, that it won't be hemmed in no matter what new (old) tactic is thrown at us.
I hope you,